Curse

Scary · Sep 30, 2009, 06:18 AM // 06:18

Oke, just a sugestion,
we have the Z key reward in exchange for balthazar points, we can unlock
skills and upgrades and runes with balthazar points.

but would it be possible to make a system which you can exchange Balthazar
points for titles, it would give us a change to do something els than grinding
on the normal way. And you wouldn't get it for free.
And maybe it would stimulate people to do more PvP during the time they play.

For example,:

a 100 lightbringer points would cost U 5000 balthazar points.
5 wisdom points for 5000 points
5 sweet tooth for 5000 points
etc...

justa Idea

caballo_oscuro · Sep 30, 2009, 07:23 AM // 07:23

/notsigned

would make the game very imbalanced. PvP has already got a rewards system. The PvE titles are specifically for accomplishing PvE tasks.

However, I wouldn't object to balth faction being exchanged for physical items like booze, sweets, or other tangibles at a fair exchange rate, so at least titles like party animal, sweet tooth etc could be acquired.

But as you wouldn't have HoM access, there would be no benefit from it other than being able to display on your char, as titles confer benefits in GW2 and will only count when registered in HoM.

Short · Sep 30, 2009, 07:25 AM // 07:25

No...But I wouldn't mind a title for handing in Balthazar in any way, it'd just be fun.

P.S But not for buying ZKeys

Betrayer of Wind · Sep 30, 2009, 07:29 AM // 07:29

Zaishen rank,hello?

drkn · Sep 30, 2009, 08:11 AM // 08:11

yeah, and let people grind both pvp and pve titles by going pvp whilst the other way around won't work.

one of the most tarded pvp-er idea ever heard, sorry.

MirkoTeran · Sep 30, 2009, 08:44 AM // 08:44

Lets turn this around....

WTS 500 Treasure points for 500k faction!

SpiritThief · Sep 30, 2009, 12:17 PM // 12:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by caballo_oscuro

/notsigned
However, I wouldn't object to balth faction being exchanged for physical items like booze, sweets, or other tangibles at a fair exchange rate, so at least titles like party animal, sweet tooth etc could be acquired.

This, sweets and booze would be nice.

Zahr Dalsk · Sep 30, 2009, 12:35 PM // 12:35

You can simply trade in Balthazar points for keys, sell them to the scrubs who buy that sort of thing, and use the gold to purchase the desired title items.

/notsigned

Chocobo1 · Sep 30, 2009, 12:45 PM // 12:45

If this happened, then the reverse would have to happen. PvP titles for PvE. Oh look, I just perma sin'd Kathandrax in HM, Now I can show of my Phoenix rank! I am so pro!

/notsigned

Scary · Sep 30, 2009, 12:48 PM // 12:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

You can simply trade in Balthazar points for keys, sell them to the scrubs who buy that sort of thing, and use the gold to purchase the desired title items.

/notsigned

Wel, that must be the best reason to notsign I ever seen.

So change Z keys. go shouting in GTOB or spammadan and hope for the best.
might be nicer to play directly for the things you want. Or am I mistaken

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocobo1

If this happened, then the reverse would have to happen. PvP titles for PvE. Oh look, I just perma sin'd Kathandrax in HM, Now I can show of my Phoenix rank! I am so pro!

/notsigned

Its you talking about the reverse.

Its not that you should get rank emotes by PvE.. ask the charr that spam
the tiger.. that was kind of

to see.
I just say, it would be nice if you play pvp and pve to change the B points
into pve title. And it might even get more people play pvp..

The 1 good argument I have seen is the one of HoM, indeed it would get
you advantage being a PvE player wiht a HoM account comparing to a
PvP player with no HoM account.
But at the other hand, this is already the case, most of the PvE players
have HoM with some titles, so being a PvP player only, that wouldn't change much.

Killerminds · Sep 30, 2009, 01:08 PM // 13:08

lolzcakes

NO

Zahr Dalsk · Sep 30, 2009, 01:22 PM // 13:22

I think we're forgetting that titles are meant as a recognition that you did something.

Legendary Cartographer, for example, means you went everywhere and saw everything. Legendary Skill Hunter means you acquired all elite skills.

You should not, for example, be able to get Holy Lightbringer by cashing in Balthazar points. Holy Lightbringer is the title that shows you killed a shitload of servants of Abaddon. You don't kill any servants of Abaddon in PvP. Same with Legendary Spearmarshal. The Sunspears don't care what you were doing off in the Battle Isles, they care what you were doing to help them in Elona.

I know most people don't give a shit what the titles themselves actually mean, but reducing them even further in this way would be another unpleasant step in a direction I don't think the game should go.

Tharg · Sep 30, 2009, 01:50 PM // 13:50

Zahr Dalsk hit it on the head

Discussion closed

Shayne Hawke · Sep 30, 2009, 02:30 PM // 14:30

What do PvP battles have anything to do with PvE titles?

Nothing. Bad idea.

Scary · Sep 30, 2009, 02:32 PM // 14:32

Wel Zahr, you cleared your point and that are some good arguments.

and maybe we should leave it, as it was just a sugestion.

concerning tvalentijn, who are you to tell other to stop discuss about things.

So, pls don't

BlackSephir · Sep 30, 2009, 02:48 PM // 14:48

Hijack!
Remove all titles. How about that.

Killerminds · Sep 30, 2009, 03:04 PM // 15:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scary

Wel Zahr, you cleared your point and that are some good arguments.

and maybe we should leave it, as it was just a sugestion.

concerning tvalentijn, who are you to tell other to stop discuss about things.

So, pls don't

He's someone who hasn't been hit on the head.

MithranArkanere · Sep 30, 2009, 04:10 PM // 16:10

That would cmpletely defeat the purpose of many of those titles.

If you want sweet tooth points from Balthazat points, you exchange them for keys, then the keys for gold, and then the gold for sweets.

As for plot titles like Lightbringer, well, you MUST go through the plot and kill stuff or make quests to get them.

Reverend Dr · Sep 30, 2009, 06:24 PM // 18:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackSephir

Hijack!
Remove all titles. How about that.

I unironically support this.

reaper with no name · Sep 30, 2009, 08:57 PM // 20:57

As do I.

As for the idea itself, I find myself torn. On the one hand, I feel like this would be a terrible idea for titles like drunkard, which have no in-game effect and exist only to show off. Making these titles easier to get is a bad idea, because it diminishes their noteworthiness.

However, on the other hand, there are titles like lightbringer and kurzick/luxon which do offer mechanical benefits in-game. Some of them are minor, but others can be significant with the right skills (I'm looking at you, AoHM!). These titles take a long time to get if you're not a hardcore farmer, and one of the reasons farming is so rampant is because there's so much incentive to do so (these titles being one of them). Creating an alternative for these particular titles might be able to somewhat alleviate this. And honestly, I don't see how making these particular titles a little easier to get is bad (since they're not just for showing off; they actually make your character a little stronger).

But on my third, mutated hand which grows out of my left shoulder blade, I find I agree with Zahr that it doesn't make sense for the Order of Whispers to recognize you as a better lightbringer because you killed a bunch of luxons in AB.

This actually reminds me of an idea I had once to allow people to purchase faction/rep for titles that offer mechanical advantages (but not sweet tooth or other such titles) as a microtransaction so Anet could make more money and people who didn't want to grind could have their R10 Norn (for a high price, of course). I never bothered suggesting it, though, because I was sure the community wouldn't go for it (plus, I never really thought it was actually a good idea to begin with).

But anyway, by a vote of 2 hands out of 3, I have to render the verdict /notsigned.